[funsec] Anyone go to ShmooCon?

[Nick FitzGerald]

Roland Dobbins wrote:

> Which was came first, the advisory or the talk?

Dunno, because I don't know when he made his presentation at ShmooCon.

However, I _doubt_ he wrote the advisory he posted to Bugtraq _after_ 
he made the presentation -- he _may have_, but without any further 
information about the sequence of events, _I_ doubt it.  Odds are he 
had the advisory ready to post (or even queued for (roughly) 
coordinated release with his presentation) before he made the 
presentation though...

> In any event, I guess I just don't understand why you feel it  
> necessary to attack Simple Nomad.  ...

I was not attacking him.

I was, however, questioning your (?) suggestion that it was "not 
premeditated" and a purely "off the cuff" or "throwaway" comment.  If 
he wrote it in advance of the presentation, in the advisory -- as seems 
likely to me -- then his use of it in the presentation was _far_ from 
your characterization.  He may have planned it to seem as if it was all 
very "spur of the moment" but then those are often the most carefully 
of orchestrated events.

> ...  He does good work, and the  
> community benefits from his work.

Did I say he doesn't?

And please, is there a _necessary negation_ of "he can act like a media 
whore" attached to "he does good work"?

Yes -- now I am suggesting his "throwaway" use of the term may have 
been less than accidental.

Do you _really_ think that old Simple _doesn't_ understand the media's 
fascination with anything an "expert" (which he certainly is) tags as 
"virus-like"?

C'mon...


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald