[funsec] Mythbusters beat biometric finger print security

kitsune kitsune at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jul 7 11:04:10 CDT 2007


They apply voiceovers for them in America, too? Do they include that
annoying lisp of Adam's from his tongue stud in all versions?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kurt Grutzmacher
To: funsec at linuxbox.org
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [funsec] Mythbusters beat biometric finger print security


They have a different voiceover for America, Canada and Europe.

Many of us are regular watchers of the show. How can you not love blowing
stuff up in the Hayward hills of California?


On 7/7/07, Larry Seltzer <Larry at larryseltzer.com> wrote:
I knew about the American MythBusters and was wondering about Gadi's
reference. I assumed they did a second show for Europeans with different
guys. They actually just voice over? Like Godzilla movies?

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
 larryseltzer at ziffdavis.com





From:  funsec-bounces at linuxbox.org [mailto: funsec-bounces at linuxbox.org] On
Behalf Of C Q
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:25 AM
To:  funsec at linuxbox.org
Subject: Re: [funsec] Mythbusters beat biometric finger print security


Mythbusters are not a British show. It's actually an American show...
Take a look at their bios... It's just for Europe the Discovery Channel
modifies the shows and uses a British voice over guy, so the European
folks feel more comfortable.



On 7/7/07, Gadi Evron < ge at linuxbox.org> wrote:
Mythbusters is a cool British show that tries to scientifically attack
myths. They even use guns. :P

To be honest, the way they conduct experiments and reach conclusions is
somewhat flawed, to say the least, but they are cool, serious and
professional (aside for the occasional safety boo-boo). They invest time
and resources in building monstrosities to prove points. :)

This time, it was about breaking biometric systems with Gummy bears!
(see bottom of post for references)

I really like this video, which you can watch on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXyFmieZjiE

I have seen this over at Xavier Ashe's The Lazy Genius
(http://blog.xavier.ashe.com/blog/_archives/2006/10/2/2381055.html ) a
longg time ago, but just made a search to find it again and post it
here. In the past, I have studied biometrics extensively and how the
systems can be beat. But there is nothing like a short video to make
your point for you.

Original link is from:
http://blogs.technet.com/steriley/archive/2006/09/20/457845.aspx

The original public paper discussing this particular technique of $10
worth materials for breaking these systems using Gummy bears is from
Tsutomu Matsumoto, a Japanese cryptographer, from around 2002.
I don't think his paper was ever online, but his slides were. They seem
gone now at a casual search, but I found some other slides by him:
http://web.mit.edu/6.857/OldStuff/Fall03/ref/gummy-slides.pdf

        Gadi.
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