[funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)

[Larry Seltzer]

I see lots of books supposely by Erwin Rommel on Amazon. Do the Books
advanced search and search on him as Author.

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larryseltzer at ziffdavis.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: ge at linuxbox.org [mailto:ge at linuxbox.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:51 PM
To: Larry Seltzer
Cc: funsec at linuxbox.org
Subject: Re: [funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)

On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:54:32PM -0400, Larry Seltzer wrote:
> Who's more posh, Clausewitz or Sun Tzu? I hear Rommel wrote a book
too.

I haven't been able to locate it (yet).

> 
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> larryseltzer at ziffdavis.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces at linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-bounces at linuxbox.org]
> On Behalf Of ge at linuxbox.org
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:03 PM
> To: funsec at linuxbox.org
> Subject: [funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)
> 
> People have been wondering why I've been keeping quiet on this issue, 
> especially since I was right there helping out.
> 
> A lot of people had information to share and emotions to get out of 
> the way. Also, it was really not my place reply on this - with all the

> work done by the Estonians, my contributions were secondary. Mr. 
> Alexander Harrowell discussed this with me off mailing lists, and our 
> discussions are public on his blog. Information from Bill Woodcock on 
> NANOG was also sound.
> 
> As to what actually happened over there, more information should 
> become available soon and I will send it here. I keep getting stuck 
> when trying to write the post-mortem and attack/defense analysis as I 
> keep hitting a stone wall I did not expect: strategy. Suggestions for 
> the future is also a part of that document, so I will speed it up with

> a more down-to-Earth technical analysis (which is what I promised
CERT-EE).
> 
> In the past I've been able to consider information warfare as a part 
> of a larger strategy, utilizing it as a weapon. I was able to think of

> impact and tools, not to mention (mostly) disconnected attacks and 
> defenses.
> 
> I keep seeing strategy for the use IN information warfare battles as I

> write this document on what happened in Estonia, and I believe I need 
> more time to explore this against my previous take on the issue, as 
> well as take a look at some classics such as Clausewitz, as posh as it

> may sound.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Gadi.
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