[funsec] Delicious Irony of the Day: BillOReilly.com DDoS'd

Brian Loe knobdy at gmail.com
Sun Mar 11 12:45:29 CDT 2007

On 3/11/07, David Harley <david.a.harley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I usually assume that life is too short to get into this sort of discussion.
> But I may as well say this once. There is a lot about the US I like, though
> I don't particularly yearn to live there, and there are some Americans whose
> friendship I value greatly. There's a lot about the US I don't like so much,
> but I don't think the UK/Europe/Brits/Europeans is/are perfection either. I
> do get tired of "My country good, your country bad" near-chauvinism. It's
> not unique to the US by any means (in real life, very little is unique to
> the US apart from geographical location), but I do see an awful lot of it
> from there, and it's not my kind of fun.
> If it were, I'd spend more time discussing Microsoft with Mac users.

I don't think I'm "bragging" on the US either - or at least that is
not my intention. I'm pretty much on the defensive - routinely against
Solly and Valdis the Hater. :)

> > Most Americans completely fail to understand the idea of
> > constitutional democracy with a monarch as Head of State.
> I haven't yet worked out why the constitutional role of your head of state
> defines whether your society is capitalist, either.

Your head of state has nothing to do with capitalism. But if the king
owns everything, either by actual law or taxes and fines, you can't
have capitalism. The point I was making is pretty simple, when the US
became the US by throwing off the shackles of tyranny, and it's King,
they became Capitalist - the pursuit of life, liberty and property
reigned supreme. It may be true that this dream hangs by a thread
these days, but its still there and I can show you endless examples of
it. That is not to say, of course, that England is not a capitalistic
society, indeed they are. In fact, the one thing that may finally
bring freedom to China is capitalism...I'll be happy to see it. And I
don't think America has much to do with it, or any other country, as
it springs eternal from the human spirit. A man's calling, if nothing
else, is to be productive and few men care to be productive for the
betterment of others only. Selfishness is not a bad thing, thank god.
I guess my point, to end all points, is that humans created capitalism
the day they began to setup advanced societies - its just that some
societies do a better job of nurturing the capitalistic spirit of its
citizens better than others.

Make sense? Probably not, its earlier than the clock reads...

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