[funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job
rsk at gsp.org
Wed Jul 15 04:47:32 CDT 2009
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 09:40:46PM -0400, der Mouse wrote:
> > For example: there isn't the slightest reason for any security
> > conference to happen, per se. There's no need to heat/cool a meeting
> > place, no need to expend jet fuel/gasoline/diesel transporting people
> > to it, etc. It's completely possible to do the entire thing
> > virtually -- and while that also uses some energy, of course, it's
> > far less.
> Yes, but the benefits are also substantially less. You lose all the
> meetings at meals, yakking with randoms met in the hallway, etc, which
> in my experience usually rival and often surpass in value the overt
> business of the conference.
Yes, I know. But we could -- if we had the will -- replace that. We've
invented plenty of technology (including this here intarwebs) and worked
out plenty of social interactions which use it. This is just one more.
(e.g.: there was a time when having a conversation with someone required
being in proximity. Now that we have this "telephone" thingy, we can do
But we just don't want to: we're creatures of habit and we like our habits,
and we probably won't change them until we're compelled to. Which is why
even organizations *which would not exist* were it not for the Internet
will steadfastly refuse to actually use the Internet to full advantage.
More information about the funsec