[funsec] Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model

Larry Seltzer larry at larryseltzer.com
Tue Jan 5 12:55:45 CST 2010


I’m sure they also feel free to single people out for reasons which would bring criticism and lawsuits here. 

 

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine

larry_seltzer at ziffdavis.com 

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/

 

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:AlexE at sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:44 PM
To: Larry Seltzer; funsec
Subject: RE: Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model

 

However, they do two things in Isreal which, if JUST those two are done well, would obviate the need for removing shoes, spectacles, fluids and all other idiocy that we go through now:

 

1.       They have a kick-ass intelligence service and

2.       They have security people observing passengers and asking questions. 

 

These two points would have stopped every single potential bomber, including the 9/11 hijackers, Richard Reid and the underwear bomber.  And we would all be a lot happier, saner and travel would actually be a pleasure.

I would also add that we should move to having portable security checkpoints at the gate areas themselves, like in Vienna, rather than right in front of the terminal.  Easier to manage small groups of people entering an airline than thousands of passengers per hour. 

 

Alex

 

 

 

From: funsec-bounces at linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-bounces at linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:48 AM
To: funsec
Subject: [funsec] FW: Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model

 

Schneier says…

 

He has a point. You’d need a massive security infrastructure in the airport to use Israeli-style security in a place like JFK or LAX. Hard to imagine

 

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine

larry_seltzer at ziffdavis.com 

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/

 

Feed: Schneier on Security
Posted on: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:05 AM
Author: schneier
Subject: Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model

 

I've been reading a lot recently -- like this one <http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother>  on the Israeli airport security model, and how we should adopt more of the Israeli security model here in the U.S. This <http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/aviation-security-and-the-israeli-model/#more-27215>  sums up the problem with that idea nicely:

	On the other hand, no matter how safe or how wonderful the flying experience on El Al, it is TINY airline by U.S. standards, with only 38 aircraft, 46 destinations, and fewer than two million passengers in 2008. As near as I can tell, Cairo is their only destination in a majority Muslim country. Delta, before the Northwest merger is included, reported 449 aircraft and 375 destinations. 

	Ben Gurion Airport is Israel’s primary (not only) international gateway. In 2008, Ben Gurion served 11.1 million international passengers and 470,000 domestic passengers, roughly comparable to the 10 million total served at Sacramento, the airport I use most often. Amsterdam served 47.4 million total, and Detroit served 35.1 million total in 2008. 

	By American standards, in terms of passengers served, Ben Gurion is a busy regional airport.

Simply put, the Israeli airport security model does not scale. Period.

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